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| Allandaros |
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I'm going to submit Richard Morgan's Market Forces for inclusion here. (I suspect that Morgan's other work may also qualify, but I haven't read it yet.)
A significant portion of P:XP has been shifting Alpha Complex away from a fundamentally Communist totalitarian state (Service Groups & so forth) and towards a (literally) cutthroat capitalist state, with the Service Firms being a prime example of this. Hyper-Singapore.
Market Forces helps a GM get into this mindframe. It tells the tale of a bizarrely dystopian future England, where corporate salarymen and -women occupy a legally separate status from the rest of the public. Conflict Investment firms explicitly function as arms brokers and influence peddlers for Third World conflicts, stoking a near-constant level of fighting, with just enough stability to keep the system going.
Oh, and to get a promotion you have to kill your boss in a Death Race 2000-esque road duel on the motorways. Morgan presents this as an outgrowth of earlier management practices - going from having 8 workers and 7 desks, so that the last worker in is deprived of a place to work, to having the last person in lose their job, to...well, autodueling to get a promotion.
This sort of practice is present throughout the corporate hierarchy - the local agents which Conflict Investment firms hire are often forcibly retired, by engaging in a gladiatorial fight with a young kid from the slums, who claim that they can surpass the agent's performance, with an improved profit margin. The survivor of the fight gets the job.
Strongly recommended.
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| Max |
| Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds interesting Alanderosouros - might have to have a read of it for some ideas.
"gods of riverworld" improved with some of it's paranoic thoughts towards the end, and has many good ideas for hi programers and hackers who are trying to turn FC against each other. It's just a shame that it's the fith in a series of books, the first 4 of which have nothing really of that ilk in them.
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| Allandaros |
| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Alanderosouros? Sounds like you're thinking of Rex.
But yes, Market Forces is very much worth a read.
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| rex |
| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| Heinrich |
| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't 2001: A Space Odyssey fit the list perfectly?
Both novel and film. The sequels were, well, 
Edit: It doesn't look like the list is still being maintained. Pity, I'd definitely want to also add The Prince by Machiavelli. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I vote for 'Demolition Man' film to be added to the list of un-mandatory watching. Though it more suits for Internal Security line rather than Troubleshooter line.
Elements: underplex society fighting against the System, stupid city network, computer in police department, banned sex, utopian 'evil genius'.
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| phobia |
| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Hmm. I'm still here.... reading the recent suggestions...
Do any of these have seconds?
2001?
Demolition Man
Curfew (game)
"gods of riverworld"
Market Forces
Dark Tower
The Prince by Machiavelli.
Omon Ra by Viktor Pelevin
We have a last call for Dark Star, any objections to adding it? |
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| No.5127 |
| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Dark Tower is a several book series. And the only ParanoiaLyke episode was in the (third or forth?) Wastelands, when heroes wanted to leave area on train, but was encountered by mighty Computer. Very cool episode.
But you don't need to read whole series, right?
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| Zild |
| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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The only one of those I've encountered is Demolition Man, but I will stick my neck out and second both it and 2001 - unless I suggested them in the first place, of course!
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| Phial |
| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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If 'The Prince' doesn't have a mandatory seconder it does now.
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| Silent |
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I'll third it because I think "The Prince" is meant to be satire, like PARANOIA is.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think I'll recommend the "dadist" tabletop RPG, Normality, as an inspiration for PARANOIA GMs. That links to the guide itself, which I cannot comprehend for the life of me, but the guide for prospective GMs makes it (slightly) easier to understand.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, dear, it's 2011 behind the window... and I need some clarifications. Nowdays we have popular tendention to 're-make' things, like movies or tv-shows. And when I use internet search services, I have problems: can't identify what exactly was meant in the first post of this thread.
For example, what year did you mean, saying
The Lottery - 1996, tv-series ? (I also found The Lottery in 1969, 1999, 2007, 2010 years)
The Apprentice - 2004 tv-series ? (there are also 1991, 1999, 2008, 2010 'search versions')
Dr Who - original ones or 2000-s remake ? |
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| phobia |
| Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Prince, 2001, and Demolition Man have all been added to the Un-mandatory list.
I'm now considering The Prince for mandatory, if anyone is interested in that...
The other 2 I don't think belong there, personally.
There are still a few things from my previous message and the post right before this one that need seconds/clarification for us to proceed with them.
Have a nice day. |
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