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| Aratos |
 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a bit rusty, but I do have basicphp etc skills, and I've got a decent amount of experience working with #Wordpress, PHPBB etc.
That said: my general web-development skills are appauling. Designing systems I can do, trying to implement something aesthetically pleasing? Less so. Also spare time is limited thanks to uni. |
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| firedup13 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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As the redesign of the homepage/portal is one of the first things being focused on: Second Danforth's suggestion on splitting the IC-Related (IC/OOC) sections from the Non-IC related sections entirely, if possible.
For the jParanoia calendar feature, do any of the programmers know if there some way to make it (or some alternate/successor calendar app) automatically update new game listings from posts made in the mission alert forum (presuming the title is formatted properly?)
As to the forums: as touched on before, some way to clean up the overwhelming number of subforums that show last post dates in 2010 would probably be a benefit; seeing the tumbleweeds shouldn't be the first impression available to a new/potential member entering the forum area.
Perhaps some forum subgroups can be combined, so there are less areas at risk of seeming stale? I think the best answer to outdated content would be... fresh content! Enlist volunteers, each charged to reinvigorate given sections with ongoing content (akin to previous features, such as question of the week/month, the troubleshooter times, and so on.)
tangent: Aratos, I could easily second your sentiment! I know when I was new to P-Live, I certainly enjoyed reading through the past IC Forum Play archives!
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| CPUreaucrat |
| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen enough sites to know that it should be possible to redesign the front page almost in full using WordPress, Drupal or some such CMS. This will allow Facebook/Twitter integration as well. The only part I'm not sure about is the wiki. I don't expect tags to be a suitable replacement for wiki articles.
As for the forum, I haven't got a clue about backwards compatibility of the current update version of phpbb, but if it is (almost) fully compatible and it is indeed a significant improvement over the 2.0.22 version we now use (in particular regarding spam management), I seems like a worthy investment of time and energy.
Unfortunately, I'm part of the group that lacks any programming skills.
JP on iphone/android would be absolutely fabulous, but I'd say address the most urgent problems with the site first, then build it out.
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| Phial |
| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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This is all valuable stuff, keep it coming. Don't concern yourself too much with feasibility for the moment. If we can't do it, we can't do it, and the more difficult or troublesome stuff will get pushed back just by natural forces anyway.
Consider this weekend the 'deadline' for the over arching idea submission phase. I'm still working on getting us un-blacklisted so there isn't any real rush.
I'm hoping that, due to the all encompassing nature of Wordpress, implementing almost anything on the front page will be a snack.
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| Adam-R-LON-1 |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Do you mean a snap? Or are you planning to drop us in your shark tank once the project is completed like a diabolical supervillain?
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| Phial |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| Phial wrote: |
* Our 'hero' is in the midst of a spirited management feedback conference via a huge vidscreen. He is reclining on a plushly upholstered lounge. If anything his paunch is more dimensionsome since the last time he was seen in public but many are speculating that his public appearances are either a bot or a stand in (again). Phial ponders somewhere behind his dirty green eyes at what precise point his life 'jumped the shark' but is none-the-less unconcerned. * |
Well sharks may be involved. Snack/snap same/same. Would I to have my way it would be a sharply administered slap. I mean what's the point in being an admin if you can't slap minions?
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| firedup13 |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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As to future user-uploaded file management, No.5127 mentioned the idea of using google docs...
Does anyone with experience with google docs (or some alternate service) feel that P-Live would be better served with a third party service fill the need that gmftp had previously? Or, if direct control of a true FTP server is preferable, should something like google docs be used as a repository for "backup" copies?
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Testing... I've never used google docs before. Could get a simple text file available for anyone to download via a google docs link fairly easily, assuming PDF or any other file format would be equally simple... On first glance, seems to provide similiar functionality to gmftp as to sharing/downloading a file... Noted that I could not get it to go so far as to embed a .jpg image into this post with the "img" command, though. Bother.
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| Adam-R-LON-1 |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'd much prefer to keep our community file hosting 'in-house' as it were. There are significant advantages to doing it this way over having them offsite. We just need to, again, rethink the way we implement it, as the security breach showed. I'm still unsure how it could not have been a scripting intrusion rather than open password access, though.
If there was a way that we could tie everything on the site to one user account, like Takyn linking the wiki to the forum, then everything would be trackable and secure. They do it at my university; one username and password gets you into every system.
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| Aratos |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam-R-LON-1 wrote: |
If there was a way that we could tie everything on the site to one user account, like Takyn linking the wiki to the forum, then everything would be trackable and secure. They do it at my university; one username and password gets you into every system. |
That's pretty much a fifteen-minute hack if you have multiple software items, or taken as written if you have a CMS with modules for everything. It does have it's disadvantages though, security not the least amongst them. |
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| Phial |
| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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There is NO way (well that's a little strong, if you can come up with a reason I'm all ears) I will contemplate moving the GMFTP off P-Live. What happenned before is entirely regretable. The security issue certainly needs to be addressed one way or the other but that's just one more design specification on the pile. I do however intend to completely backup the site and all the associated data to both our file host and a "cloud" service (such as Google docs) it may be that a side effect is parallel user access (so you can get stuff off our hosting or another host). Can you say "Hello design specification pile"?
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| Adam-R-LON-1 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Sounds good Phial. By the way Allen hates that Mr Rogers joke.
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| Allen Varney |
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| Adam-R-LON-1 wrote: |
| Allen hates that Mr Rogers joke. |
Only insofar as West End Games ran it so deep into the ground that even when it surfaces now, 20 years later, it still carries a zombie fetor. |
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| Phial |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:45 am Post subject: |
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What Mr Rogers joke?
And congratulations on your hopefully more than temporary promotion.
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| Adam-R-LON-1 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| No.5127 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Phial wrote: |
Focus time.
What do you want from P-Live?
What are you willing to do to achieve this?
What relevant skills do you bring to the table? |
Oh, let's think a bit.
What I want from P-Live is an easy conversations with others. Maybe a bit more friendly looking frontpage (maybe will draw a sketch tomorrow).
What am I willing to do to achieve this, is a good question, as I'm at opposite with the others, have no programming skills neither, but have a very valuable resource which seldom clone poses - some free time. So, my skill of scanning text massives may be usefull somehow.
p.s. Plus i was planning to download logs and create several 'already-made-missions-for-lazy-gms'. So, what was Scelene doing exactly? |
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